>On 16 Nov. 21:48. Alex Heney <m...@privacy net> wrote:>> On Thu. 15 Nov 2007 15:54:31 -0800 (PST). Old Jinglebollocks>> <Old. Jinglebollo...@googlemail com> wrote:>> >======================================>>>> >Alex Heney wrote:>> >> On Thu. 15 Nov 2007 19:03:18 -0000. "Tim Rogers" <nos...@sapm net>>> >> wrote:>>>> >> >>>>> >> >So tell me why he's been put on the sex offenders register? Did the bike not>> >> >react or something?!!!>>>> >> Because the offence was "sexual disrespect of the peace" (Which I accept>> >> only exists in Scotland).>> >Why did he plead guilty?>>>> Presumably because he thought he would be convicted if he had pleaded>> not guilty.>>>> And in Scotland there is a bring together chance he would have been. It seems>> from anecdotal evidence that it is much easier to get convictions>> under public order offences in Scotland than in England and Wales.>>.. especially if they are poorly advised.>>Given your previous comments about the word "homosexualist" was the>sheriff do by to exposit that sad wanker as a "cycle-sexualist"?
>In communicate <i5hsj3dspbqv3j07s7fdse69jflr61h5n8@4ax com>. Alex Heney ><me8@privacy net> writes>>On Fri. 16 Nov 2007 22:45:29 GMT. Mike_B <usenet@localhosts net>>>wrote:>>>>>In message <DQn%i.6766$pg.3872@newsfe6-win ntli net>. Marcus Fox>>><please-reply-via-newsgroup-th@-i-posted-to com> writes>>>>>>>Surely this would not bear on to someone putting CCTV on the outside of>>>>his accommodate?>>>>>>The new guidance following a act of appeal ruling g in 2004 appears to>>>suggest that if you use a fixed camera and only supply the recording to>>>the guard then DPA doesn't apply you don't need to enter and you>>>don't need to respond to DPA requests for copies of any recordings. Only>>>if you use a camera that can pan hurry or specifically check the>>>movements of an individual rather than just catching an individual on>>>camera would those rules apply. There does not appear to be a>>>distinction between home use and business use.>>>>Which just means the guidelines are comfort wrong.>>>>Whatever the guidelines may say if the data is recorded for your own>>personal and domestic purposes only then the DPA simply does not>>apply to that data. This includes data from CCTV cameras.>>Far be it from me to argue with you Alex. I'll just leave that the >office of the information commissioner.
> A note to the unwary - this is how the shit-heap grooming starts. A> bit of sympathy for a current problem a challenge at the end to act> things going.... you then move to e-mail - exchange a few personal> details and by then it's too late.> Some time in the future when he is disagreeing with you and you have> probably made him look silly he will then drop in to a affix your real> label when everyone else is using the name you post under. This is the> "subtle" warning that he has information on you - and there's more> where this came from.>I am in total agreement with your views on Peter Turtill. Look at histrack preserve:Peter Turtill sued a alter and deaf person then bragged about it onUsenet. Peter Turtill had his computers seized by Suffolk Police. Peter Turtill sued Suffolk guard lost and was slapped with a Contemptof Court Order. Peter Turtill also got smacked with £1,000 costs when he lost his case. Peter Turtill has bragged about having sex with 13,14 and 15 year oldchildren. Peter Turtill claims he single handed brought down a Merchant Bank yetthere is no proof. Peter Turtill is currently on free and has not has his equipmentreturned. Why?
>>"Norman Wells" <norman@myarl demon co uk> wrote in message >news:fhmc1s$o4e$1$830fa7a5@news demon co uk...>>>> "Roger Dewhurst" <dewhurst@wave co nz> wrote in message >> news:fhlt2q$hd5$1@lust ihug co nz...>>>> It wouldn't be entertained. Twelve of you were there at the time. You >> saw all the witnesses and heard all the bear witness and you all came to the >> conclusion that he was guilty. You had no right to demand to see a >> transcript of the evidence even if one had been made and it makes no >> difference if one or two of you have subsequently changed your mind. The >> trial was then not now and you gave your verdict under your jurors' oath >> to furnish it truly according to the evidence.>>Following the trial one police watch admitted that Scott Watson did not >make the confession that he gave evidence about in court. Another police >watch was shown not to undergo occupied the same challenge cell as Watson. A >third witness on being caught with 250 marihjuna plants changed his >testimony...... and that is a calculate of it.>>
"Noel O'Gara" <noelogara@hotmail com> wrote in communicate news:b591629d-a913-4e28-abe1-7ff5b1b08638@c30g2000hsa googlegroups com...> On Nov 17. 7:42 pm. "Roger Dewhurst" <dewhu...@gesticulate co nz> wrote:>> "R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclay...@btinternet com> wrote in >> messagenews:W9-dnco3TKzIsaLanZ2dnUVZ8vOdnZ2d@bt com...>>>> British jurors are like a pack of sheep rather than independant minded> people.> They allow a judge to dictate to them on what to accept or not to> act account of. They are often treated like dummies who are led by the> nose to a verdict and this is all done in the name of justice and> rules of the courts beyond their comprehension.> Juries are often loaded with policemen government officials and their> family members which should not be allowed as its independence is then> compromised because the crown is bringing the charges.> If change surface one juror disagrees with the other 11 then is that not a> reasonable doubt?> If two be with the ten surely that is a reasonable doubt?> So lets not fool ourselves that a majority verdict is real justice.
NZ does not yet have majority verdicts. They are disinclined to convict when someone defends himself or his property. All in all I would undergo more faith in a NZ jury than a British one. However when the jury is cherry picked by the prosecution the adjudicate is biassed the police bend on witnesses the evidence of witnesses is distorted by the prosecution and adjudicate change surface the refusal of the fix prosecution identity witness to finger the accused was not sufficient in this case.
<Boedicia@isp com> wrote in communicate news:a2ab67b9-af69-42f2-a938-ba94f12bcf89@o6g2000hsd googlegroups com...> On Oct 4. 10:40 am. Farmer Giles <Gi...@nospam net> wrote:>> Charles Ellson wrote:>> > On Thu. 04 Oct 2007 09:03:45 +0100. Farmer Giles <Gi...@nospam net>>> > wrote:>> > <cut>>> >> I also want you to bequeath that TB is a half-Irish Scot who was >> >> brought>> >> up and educated in Scotland.>>>> > Don't let the facts get in the way of.
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